WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Darlo Debs 8:58 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
*Ayn Rand

Darlo Debs 8:58 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
I cant think of that AnnRand book without thinking ofcOfficer Barbrady in South Park.....
.....Respect Ma Authoritaaay

Fivetide 8:42 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
I don't think I have ever voted for the party in a general election that would directly benefit me personally the most.

mentor 8:35 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Policies more suited to Uranus.

MrCrowmanSir 8:29 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
The Green party is full of bogeys.

Iron2010 8:25 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Nurse

I've got a four year old and a two week old and totally agree. I shouldn't have used the word unfortunately but suppose the world would be a better place if we treated our community like our family. Mind you many American cults act like this and that usually ends in mass suicide !

Capitol Man 8:12 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Nurse Ratched 8:03 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet

To a point. But then at some point your self-interest lies in looking beyond your individual experience, which is where most to the silly little libertarians fall on their face.

Your offspring being a a publicly-subsidized university being a prime example. If he or you were expected to pick up the FULL cost of his education then it would be significantly less likely you would go.

Then you have the fact that a publicly-funded primary and secondary education system allowed him to get to the point he could go.

Even getting there he can likely take public transport (at least subsidised), use public roads.

His lecturers likely went through at least some publicly-funded education.

At some point almost every decision in "self-interest" ties back to one that's come about because of a decision made in the general interest.

Most of the silly little Rand devotees struggle to make the connections beyond their micro existence.

Nurse Ratched 8:03 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Iron2010 - what's wrong with that?

Both my adult children were at home last weekend (a rare occurance what with one of them at university and the other virtually living with their girlfriend).

At one point I looked at them over dinner and realised I would be quite happy for the rest of you apes to die screaming in a giant fireball for all I care.

Self-interest for yourself and your offspring is natural.

Iron2010 7:55 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Unfortunately most of us live as Rand describes with self interest as the over riding goal.

Gavros 7:54 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
you take yourself too seriously infidel, son.

Infidel 7:42 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Gavros

You dislike me because I am a follower of Ayn Rand.

And you dislike Ayn Rand because people like me follow her.

Do you know what a circular argument is?

Hermit Road 7:27 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet

The Joker 5:14 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet

It doesn't promote that view though does it? The fucking leader of the party is married to a foreigner.

Gavros 7:25 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Yep. As i said the fact that people like you get turned on by her is enough to put me off.

Infidel 7:08 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Gavros

"I havent bothered to ever read Ayn Rand"

but you'll give an opinion on her anyway?

Right, so long as we're clear.

Gavros 5:39 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
nice one centurion!

i havent bothered to ever read Ayn Rand but one thing I do et from those that adhere to her is a dreadful whiff of righteous selfishness. We can all understand the selfish motive in humanity and the way it powers our world but such bare naked worship of it is distasteful in the extreme.

westhammerer 5:36 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Infidel 5:25 Mon Apr 13

'There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.'

Gavros 5:33 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
William Rees-Mogg

The Kronic 5:30 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Infidel is Jacob Rees-Mogg. I'm sure of it.

Infidel 5:25 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
Gavros

Everyone is a Hobbesian. How could one not be?

But sadly not everyone is a Randian.

The World would be a better place if Atlas Shrugged had been read by every schoolchild as a mandatory part of the curriculum since it was first published in 1957.

Fivetide 5:22 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
It took a "Marxist idiot" to write: "So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."

Fivetide 5:21 Mon Apr 13
Re: The Green Party/ Natalie Bennet
"In our age there is no such thing as 'keeping out of politics.' All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia. Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."

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